Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:13pm
My cell is 5742052207 or send me yours n ill call u ...
Donna Grace 4/25, 4:19pm
Sounds like he may not need further transport Carrie, sounds like a guy in
WY is going to take him. My number is 406-702-0669 tho. usually only texts
get thru. ...
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:19pm
Id love to take that boy for my daughter she got a bum deal on a horse cant
do a thing with him ...
Donna Grace 4/25, 4:19pm
OH i thot you were talking about transport....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:19pm
Bowed tendons
Noo ...
Donna Grace 4/25, 4:19pm
OH crap ...
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:19pm
My daughter wants a project to raise up Prefers sc N im alletgic so inless
curly I cant help her with it.. ...
Donna Grace 4/25, 4:21pm
Well he SHOULD be hypoallergenic, but i have not had anyone allergic around
him. He has a -2-finger hernia, fixable in your own corral, but it is a
project, so i decided to give him away. How about this, I think this guy is
taking him, in WY, but he is away from Computer for a bit, if he does not
take him, i will give him to you. -2-finger hernia, fixable in your own
corral, but it is a project, so i decided to give him away. How about this,
I think this guy is taking him, in WY, but he is away from Computer for a
bit, if he does not take him, i will give him to you....
. Donna Grace 4/25, 4:22pm
He is in WA state right now - leaving May 1 or so, heading toward Crowheart
WY - between riverton and dubious ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:22pm
Daughter I s working for vet now so wld have great care .K just let me know
.Ive got to travel from fallon nv to greeley colorado n could prolli figure
how to pick him up ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 4:23pm
he would be perfect for you... only needs iodine injected around hernia, and
it will scar closed and heal and make awesome gelding ... he will be a great
horse. .OK ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:23pm
Is he gelded or? .We dont mind studs most the horses at barn are studs lol
....
Donna Grace 4/25, 4:24pm
he is only a year, and runs out with stud bands, so he wont act like a stud
til 2 or 3... i am sure you will geld him before you know he is a "stud"
....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 4:25pm
Lol likely not if hes a curly . . We board where stalliond r perfectly
acceptable .Maybe when hes all grown in .. lol .Is he from your lines? .I so
miss my warrior ponies.. ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:08pm
Anyhow plz keep me in mind my daughter wld be thrilled .. she got what she
thought was her dteam horse n he cant be ridden.. ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:11pm
OK... will certainly keep in touch thanks! your poor daughter... ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:12pm
Thank u very much. Ill be going across southern wy sometime this coming
week.. later in the week. .Ill look up yhose towns when im stopped .Cos im
not sure where they are in relation to where ill be ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:14pm
right... Crowheart is between Riverton and Dubouis... that is the
destination, BUT would have to time a meeting, i don't think i can have him
dropped there for any length of time... (thinking) ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:14pm
I tried to get her a qh colt last year looked just like this one but I
wasn't fast enuf .I xan travel some too if need be .Oh got 4g im gonna look
lol.. jusy in case he doesn't want him!! ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:16pm yea.. i think he is leaving May 1... headed to
Crowheart... so not sure if the dates will line up, but we will find out.
Yea, he is ALL my lines... and will be a prize of a gelding... SUCH good
natures, and should be hellacious ranch horse or using horse ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:19pm
Thats xactly what she needs. Shes been riding the charros reiners. N we have
a lot of help when is time to train. .I looked it up yeh is do able on my
end to pickup there. If u say go ill just really move my ass thats all lol
.Is his hernia just an umbilical one? Thats very fixable ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:22pm
YES less than 2 fingers according to Joel, so its very fixable, you just
inject a little iodine solution around it, geld him, and voila ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:24pm
Lol he will end up doin a lot of halter classes this year.. were going back
to showing drifter n how id love to show the guys a curly bred ranch horse!
They dont believe me .. they think theyre all like drifter ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:25pm I did one other hernia like this one about 7 or 8
years ago, and it did swell up - the scarring is what held the hernia in...
but it did take about 3 months until it was looking like a normal horse...
she might have to wait til next year for halter, or this fall? ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:26pm Ahh she ll just have the vet do it .Well anyway
if your friend decides he wants him wont matter. Just let me know n ill keep
that leg open instead of trying to book up ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:36pm Will do, should know by tonight, or tomorrow ? will
that be quick enough for you? .have to also check with Joel who will be
doing the haul, to check on dates and places etc ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:37pm Sure!. Im hauling cattle to tx this weekend
then headed northwest to nv ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:39pm ok... i should just send him to you huh? this other
guy, wants to take him and train him and help prove the bloodline, etc, out
doing something real with him, but your daughter will too, plus she is
allergic and he is not... ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:40pm Im allergic lol n my son. Oh he will be trained
by her and barn manager traditional charro .. reining .Hes been training her
all winter shes been schooling his horses .But she wants her own young one
to raise up ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:42pm
OK let's do it Carrie. .this colt should reach close to 16 hh... and he is
Vaquero bred and approved ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:49pm
Oop I sent her pics of mum n dad n baby shes like oooooooo seriously fer
real mom? ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:49pm
OK DONE DEAL Carrie... we will make this happen. .A match made in heaven i
think! ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:50pm
Eee shes excited .Says no way cant believe it.. .She competed on a black
velvet grandaughter . Won EVERYTHING with her .We sent the lines to mexico.
Black velvet has a great grandson there.. her colt ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:52pm
She did??? HOley COw! oh GOOD ---- i am SO GLAD!!!! so looking at map, it
would be north from I-80, at Rawlins, going northwesterly to Crowheart. And
i have to talk to Joel but it should be around 3rd of May or thereabouts...
?? would that work? ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:53pm
Ill make it work .lol the first curly I ever tained was warrior hammrick
bred... .Won everything w her too lol ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:54pm
ahhhhh we need to revive those old lines.. i am absolutely in LOVE with them
....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:56pm
They r awesome I didnt think we would ever have another one. N my filly is
now starting train ing this year she sold to young mexican trainer for
rodeo. She was granddaughter wbv also .Out of toby by ach aishihik ruby .I
love em. Easy to train .Non allerfic .N highly competitive in show ring ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:57pm
whoa....
awesome... .you are fixing to get a big-butt big muscled, big boned, more QH
type colt... he should (honestly) make a better horse than any of those
above... you never know, but should. i think you will be very pleased ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 5:59pm
If theres any way at all possible to keep this colt a stud he will be raised
as one.. but whayever vet recommend is what will haopen. He only does horses
n is surgical specialist also so we will make sure he gets best care. Bobbi
is starting as his assistant this week. ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 5:59pm
did you see the grey son of Bad Warrior for sale? we are asking about making
a syndicate purchase of that bad boy, to help revive the numbers of these
outstanding horses ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:00pm
Im extremely intetested in seeing thrm bred and used .I have my warrior colt
in mexico he nreds a similar mare to cover in cpl years. He cld also be
homozygous for curls. .Hes bay sabino baldface ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:02pm
Well, ask him if there is chance that hernia is heritable... that was my
concern... i had one about 10 years ago... so not high incidence, but makes
one concerned. Also, Warrior Lynx tested as a GBED carrier, and I have not
had Wind tested yet, so that is another thing to check out... we may be able
to come up with another (maybe curly) prospect if you want to geld this
one... but i will respect your decision any way you and your vet wants to
go... ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:02pm
Sadle at weaning momma gored herself on corral n we lost her ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:02pm
oMG ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:02pm
Yeh that sucked .Well let me know what tests I should run if he stays intact
so we can do it .Need to make best decision possible .Oh my lmbo shes
thrilked hes straight how funny .Always has liked the bunny ponies .Too
funny ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:07pm
Yes, when you are home, not traveling, holler to me... we will go over it
all. OH you can read my report on all that here too:
www.CurlyHorses.com/genetic-testing.htm - he could be bred as a carrier, but
only to tested clean mares. .CurlyHorses.com | Genetic DNA Testing for
Equine Disorders curlyhorses.com DNA Tests for Genetic Diseases in Horses.
Since Curly Horses can trace back to any number of American horse breeds, it
is important to remain aware of all of them, know which ones are easily
tested for with a hair sample, and test our Curly Horses for any that are
indicated by their pedigree....
. Donna Grace 4/25, 6:08pm
Tell her HUGS and I LOVE it when 2 mommas make a plan come together!!! ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:09pm
Great. Yes will depend on vets advice but if he says he eill be ok
definitely will test n he can at least be collected for use elsewhere .Sc
are still excellent breeding stock. Too many r cut imo ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:10pm
Yea, get vet's advice on the hernia... so hard to decide if it could be
genetic or environment when range foaled... and i SO agree!!!! and a good
horse is a good horse. ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:10pm
N tnk u very much my kid is just thrilled .She will spare no expense on him.
....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:11pm
i am thrilled too! wait til i tell MY daughter it was her idea for me to put
this colt online like this, i had told Joel to put him down, rather than
risk him being dumped or something worse... THIS is AWESOME beyond words!!!!
....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:11pm
Very hard worker .17 . Own apartment. New equine vet assistant job n works 6
days week in restaurant us at barn daily n schooling the reiners there .Lol
im just a lil proud. But u know it was drifter the 1st curly we ever saw. .
N that lil warrior mare started it all 4 us .Aw its crazy bcos until today I
was tryin to find someone else to go to nv n get those fillies to Colo rado
.Must ve been meant 4 me to head west ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:15pm
I am proud of her too! and you should be! i have to say, my 2 daughters are
awesome too... it takes a good mom to make a good daughter. and this is so
perfect... i am SO GLAD YEP it's meant to be!! ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:16pm
Hehe im excited.. when drifter hits 20 I can ride this one .N not sneeze
....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:16pm
YES! ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:17pm
I love qh but im so allergic so dont get to do a lot im a bit limited w
drifter but hes comin aling.. .Aling .Grr frik ALONG .Well my hand is numb n
its getting dark I bettr quit texting .B4 I wreck .Lol ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:20pm
LOL drive safe! ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:21pm
Ill keep u posted where im at as im gettin there ....
Donna Grace 4/25, 6:22pm
THANKS Carrie ....
Carrie Freeland 4/25, 6:22pm
Ah heck no thank u my kid is thrilled .... May 1
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 8:13am
Hear anything from Joel? Im having a hell of a time trying to book up not
knowing what im doing or when ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:06am
NO I thot he'd have called you by now... ! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:07am
Oh he jusy did lil bit ago .Im gonna go up n get him .What a nice guy ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:07am
Oh good! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:08am
Too bad too he just sold his ropin calves last week! .Lol ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:08am
ah! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:08am
Doesnt look like ill have room anyway ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:08am
getting the goats? ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:09am
Starting to fill up .If she can get cvi in time yeh. ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:09am
ah yea ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:09am
N I think I got a colt in 3 forks to bring to salina ks ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:09am
good ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:10am
Will work out ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:10am
*relief!* ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:10am
Oh yes im like a bulldog on not being empty lol ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:10am
if you weren't you'd go in the hole quick ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:10am
Drives me craxy .Yup .Delivered a cycle last night im pissy bein empty thru
nevada today ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:12am
OL ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:12am
Ill pay joel the 70 for coggins n etc when I pickup ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:12am
cool ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:12am
Thats what he paid he said .So dont worry bout it ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:13am
I am glad .hope colt will be worth it to you girls ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:13am
Well is least we can do ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:13am
thanks! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:14am
Oh heck lol look at my kids .. ... Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:14am
Yesterday .My son is on a stud horse lol that was yesterday .He will be
loved .My lil cowpokes ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:15am
awww .he OUGHT to have a million dollar temperament, and with the attention
your kids will give him, he ought to be awesome ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:16am
U see always riding Javier s horses ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:16am
when this colt matures he will be noticed ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:16am
So this is great one just 4 them ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:16am
YAY! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:17am
Whats really funny is he doesn't let anyone else really ride his personal
mounts except my kids! Lol .Is kinda funny ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:18am
cool! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:18am
Were the only white ppl there.. everyone else is Mexican lol ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:18am
LOL ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:18am
Love it thetes 0 drama ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:18am
in Illinois?? ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:18am
Yes ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:18am
awesome .zero drama eh, interesting! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:19am
Is all about the horses there n families .Very nice ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:19am
Montana needs more of that... ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:19am
Pro rodeo chutes n arena set up .Is perfect ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:19am
huh! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:20am
That puc was taken in the arena .*Pic* .Oh yeh
we have k8ck butt trainer .N cheap ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:20am
well that is wonderful ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:20am
Is under 600 month includes full board .For reining/roping traini g ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:21am
cool .they will be able to decide which areas this colt would be best in
....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:22am
Oh yes lol if u ever need let me know! ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:22am
I need! just have zero dinero ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:22am
Oh he wont get ridden for long time .Lol send that
gelding! ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:22am
if I could afford, I would ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:23am
Aww id do it if u would advertise him for sale ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:23am
your kids could make the extra money from selling him, after trained a
while ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:24am
My daughter does that on commission javier helps her for free ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:24am
I wish I had not promised Joe I would keep him one more moonth ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:24am
Bummer ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:24am
but he is splendid man, great vaquero, and I could not abandon him when so
badly injured... ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:25am
He would be going good in a cpl weeks .Oh no is important to stand by
friends! .Very imo ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:26am
maybe I could send Trooper with you... and if Joe tells me he decides he
still wants Trooper (unlikely as doctors said never ride again) I could
get you to haul trooper back to Joe (Colorado) and as joe pays me, send to
you... that would be worse case scenario. YEA I cannot disappoint him, it
might mean life or death right now, laying there w/ broken neck ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:26am
Sad wow ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:27am
If he DOES end up taking him, he would prob only have him for a buddy
.maybe....
....
. .thinking....
.. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:28am
Well u think on it. Id rather do that than haul goats! .Lol .N I can always book myself going west to bring him when
hes recovered . ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:29am
I could send with you, like I said above... because even if Joe took him,
and I doubt he will, horse needs to be ridden 30 days before Joe takes
him. I could pay you transport, and the 30 days training, with what Joe
sends me for Trooper... if you don't have to be reimbursed quickly ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:29am
Poor guy I know when I had my wreck I wad devastated .Fractured my
neck.. blocked all the nerves to my right arm ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:30am
wow. Joe's broke in 2, but he is typing on facebook - but - NOT talking to
me about Trooper... so I know he is scared and depressed .Do you trust me
enough to work out logistics about this deal? To be able to play by the
punches, and hope for the best for everyone? I am willing to send him with
you... I think it might be best for everyone ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:32am
Lol .Couldnt ride .I recovered then broke my leg in mole tunnel year later .Id trust u. After all horse would be there n being used.
....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:33am
IF JOE does NOT take Trooper, then, I would eventually want to be paid
$3500 for him, and your kids can work him, and make whatever profit they
want on him. I don't know about Illinois, but here, this is a $10,000
gelding in a season....
so your kids should be able to make 3000 or so on him pretty easy. You can
discuss it with your girls. Trooper has the coggins already, was ready to
ship to CO ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:33am
Which is a plus .Wow ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:35am
There are not many geldings lke this around. I know I don't sound humble,
but, I breed top horses... not many, but tops. or I don't breed at all.
being poor, it is a long slow painful process for me, but the girls and I
make things happen by having friends, respect in the business, and
networking. we achieve great things for being so F'ing poor. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:39am
Well I can promise u he will be working .Once hes going id defer to your
opinion on price etc .Do u mind if he gets used for barrels n stuff? ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:39am
i used to be ranch neighbors with the family that started Buck Brannaman out
in his clinicing career... i met him, went to a few clinics, etc way back
when. i had done natural horsemanship before i knew Buck. since 1989. SOooo
my girls and i are decent hand with a horse... meaning, if we don't get much
done (like with Trooper) we still manage not to do too much wrong either. so
this gelding is a diamond in the rough. Strong, never ridden much, will last
for a long time. Has rounded up cattle in pasture, has had rope swung on
him, just green as a gourd. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:39am
Might not compete but would learn it ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:40am
i would not mind what you do, but would only advise, never let him get hot
headed... a Hancock, is calm and intelligent and thoughtful, but if you fuzz
them up, prepare for a war, and he weighs a lot. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:40am
Oh wow dats great hes not been messed up by someone else. Kind we like ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:40am
exactly you wont find another like that .last 2 geldings we started, we used
as sstuds for couple seasons, gelded THEN started... Trooper, and a curly
years back... we never saddled until they were 5 .not necessarily by plan,
but by situation .but i LOVE horses started at 5 and 6... Trooper saddled
1st time at age 6. Their backs are strong, and they have natural
collection.....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:42am
Stupidity .Everything is done slow .No we dont hot dog our horses n dont
tolerate stulidity .I keep losing my data connection sorry ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:43am
maybe you can read all this when you stop later. .Hancocks will give you
their everything, their soul, like a Curly, but get them upset, and they
quit you. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:44am
Oh im getting just my messages r sending out of order lol ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:44am
LOL .that's ok i am very unorderly anyway ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:45am
Well all I caan say is we r short a user this year .Lol .So he will be
rode a LOT .By javier n both my kids .The potential is there to sell. They
host rodeos all summer n fall there .Plus any advertising u do. ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:47am
ok ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:47am
Or if joe wamts him he wld be safe ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:48am
exaclty ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:48am
Between bobbi and I we can cover his care for may n if he needs farrier or
etc ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:49am
ok... he will need farrier for sure .my daughter said, this idea is aweseome
....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:50am
We pay 240 a month board but I can manage may n his trim javier will do ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:50am
If Joe wants him, he will have to owe that? I personally cannot pay cash for
anything, all i have is horses... i can barely make my rent and heat bill.
and i do not want you to get shafted ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:50am
That will at least give some recovery ti.e for your friend ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:51am
yea it would ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:51am N miss bobbi will have a horse to ride n u get
free training ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:52am
i would love to make this work. i don't want YOU to get hurt by it.
.because i KNOW i have NO money. i pay $50 / month for Trooper on grass.
....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:52am
No I will cover may we will see how it goesn ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:53am
Yes by June 1st i need a solid answer from Joe. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:53am
Your friend needs some time n sounds like u need a break ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:53am
so so true... and poor Trooper, he just stands there going to waste he
needs a life ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:54am
Oh he will get a job .Lol ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:54am
LOL .he wont know what to think! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:54am
He will like the attention .There are many aqha shows by us too ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:55am
he really will, he is a bit aloof right now, been lonesome all winter by
himself, but soon, he will be back to his loving self. he has quite the
character. wants to come in the house with you....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 11:56am
Well as u can see the horses there stay very fit. .Regular work lots of oats
....
Donna Grace 5/1, 11:56am
i trust you... some people can make deals, and swing with the punches, and
some can't. you are one who can. and you seem to want what is best for
everyone. that is the kind of person i feel comfortable with. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:14pm
I dont really ever go into things with dollars in mind .Better to be
practical .I stopped dealing with outside stock after my accident .But
were at a great barn and im working daughter has 2 jobs .So I feel secure
enuf to say its do able .Plus I really believe in your horses having
trained several from warrior lines. The qh I adore but have allergies .So
trooper will be enjoyed by the kids n helped along professionally by
Javier supervision so its done right way n hes 100% marketable .Its a real
shame when I see some of the stock people advertise . Backyard nags w
horrible conformation n unbroke for any use .Makes me scream .Particularly
curly ppl.. must sell must sell.. unbroke.. scraggly mixed up lineages. .
Yuck ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:22pm
oh don't get me started. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:23pm
Lol I was lucky enough to be around marvs herd .They were good curlies.
.Something to take pride in ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:24pm
it is no wonder Curly industry has little credibility... nags, backyard
breeding, wakadoodle people... yikes. .how fortunate for those few, who see
good ones in the beginning, and do not get scarred for life, thinking about
the curly breed. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:26pm
I refuse to stand drifter at stud .Lol thats how disgusted I am ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:27pm
I don't blame you. and then we have what half dozen goofball-run
registries... I dontk now if there is any immediate hope in sight....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:28pm
I havent renewed w either icho or abcr....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:29pm
I haven't registered a horse in prob 15 years....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:31pm
Dont blame u.Trooper is aqha tho isnt he? ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:31pm
yes .you will be allergic ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:31pm
K. Im mostly allergic to the sweat .Otherwise im ok .K
well im going to pay javi to work him bobbi us going to cover his board
....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:33pm
So trooper is set lol .For may anyway! ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:33pm
right! .then we will regroup and see what is going on ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:33pm
He will only need a month w him anywsy .Sounds good .Plus bobbi will ride
him. Javi coaches her w tge reining horses shes gotten pretty good ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:35pm
Trooper is big boy, but catty as hell for his size. when a weaner, he
regularly jumped in and out of paddocks, over 4-5 foot gates. .and he moves
catty like a smaller horse... he can slick out underneath you when
startled... will do that til he gets confident. .I have videos of him ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:39pm
Its ok. Bobbis got velcro butt .Lol .N javi dont ever come off a horse .Lol
theyre sumthin else to watch ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:40pm
he is a good boy... but he is easy moving ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:40pm
Hes very good to her ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:48pm
Oh I forgot to ask lol where IS trooper ? ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:49pm
billings mt ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:49pm
Okies .Joel said he wld run baby down for me .Told him I was worried bout
not making it in ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:50pm
down his driveway? good. .I think Joel is used to that ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:50pm
Hoping so! .Well my kid already teserved 2 stalls so is all set at home!
....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:51pm
wow we are shakers and movers eh? ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:52pm
Lol no we only shake n move for worthy causes . Everyone else can piss ul a
rope ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:52pm
yep! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:52pm
Buahahaha ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:53pm
that's right. ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:53pm
I had so many these curly women waste my time .Hiedi.. tracy.. omg .Chr
.Sick of it ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:53pm
oh yea... ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:54pm
I like real projects .Real work .Not bs ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:54pm
me too! .have to be vicarious for now, but hey! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:55pm
Ppl tink im a bitch lol but I just have a low bs meter ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:55pm
exactly .my tolerance wears thinner with age ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 12:58pm
Hiedi wanted me to haul these 3d baby to ger for free .Then got mad when I
wouldn't ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 12:58pm
oh geez ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:01pm
Accused me of wanting yhem myself for resale .Uuf ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:10pm
awww .for crying out loud ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:12pm
Tracy asked me all winter for quktes n never shipped anything .Im thru .Done
.So I got lady in Greeley whos actually paid their lot board n 90 cents a
mile n theyre going to her for future therapy horses her friends habe a
program there .Im brutally honest w ppl .Apparently it pisses them off .Lol
.I will go out of my way to do good. But I get really mad when they try to
be sneaky n manipulate me .This with your horses is a
good opportunity for all involved imo. Thats why ill do it. It benefits
the horses and all of us. .W horses is not possible to enter into
something thinking u will make money. It has to be because is worth doing.
Just how I feel bout it anymore ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:20pm
that is exactly how I feel. if it was about money, I'd be long gone years
ago .i love the horses... and i love GOOD horses... and i care about people
who care about good horses and know the difference ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:24pm
Well looks like im gomna have to contrive a way to put those goats up in my
gooseneck! .Lol .That 600 is gettin spent on trooper hehe .Rotflmao ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:25pm
cool!! haha .i cannot think of a better contribution that 4 goats could make
in this world! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:31pm
5 .4 jan kids 1 dec kid .Just when I get to where u are at w trooper ill
have to close in the hay mow somehow n put goats in there ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:32pm
yea ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:32pm
IF the one lady hires me to pickup colt in three forks .I think I could get
a hog panel n cut it to fit in there .N wire it .So air n hay can go thru
but not the goats ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:36pm
yea huh ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:37pm
Ah well heck I never make amything off horses . But goats n cattle pay for
the horses ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:39pm
Eee o I cant wait to see how he turns out .I love sering them progress
.Nothin better than a horse w a job ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:40pm
i am VERY excited! ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:40pm
Hehe me too .Is trooper related to your curlies? .His pedigree is about
foundation qh as they come! I found it online ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 1:45pm
no... ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 1:46pm
Just curious. Lol ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 2:11pm
i did have, but lost her ....
Carrie Freeland 5/1, 2:12pm
Aww sorry .Been there ....
Donna Grace 5/1, 2:12pm
dun roan curly filly, was going to be big like him, and a doll .... June 2
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 7:20am
Hey there are ya on here? .... June 2
Donna Grace 6/2, 1:47pm
i am here now... ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 1:48pm
on a laptop i bought Sterrin, after dog crashed hers on the floor when i was
borrowing it... my main pc that i do websites with, is too old and slow to
open facebook. so now i am borrowing Sterrin's NEW laptop that i had to buy
her. SO... how can i pick your brain, how to haul on the west coast... ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 1:56pm
Lol ? .I need someonr out there to do hauls .Badly ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 1:57pm
I need to make some money badly .let's do this. i am having my truck and
trailer gone over with a fine tooth comb .i am going to start out making a
trip or 2 between family... so i have a place to stay on both ends, til i
get some money to be able to afford the unknown... etc ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 1:58pm
Lol good luck I have mine in shop constantly best u can do is be prepared n
know what hasnt been replaced yet! Lol uugggghhh....
Donna Grace 6/2, 1:58pm
i know, my future son in law is the master mechanic, and he is VERY pleased
with my truck told me it will go another 50k mi or so, then the motor will
need replace....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 1:58pm
I have 2 or 3 loads prolli more in mt n cali I need another hauler for ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 1:59pm
awesome... ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 1:59pm
Make sure thermostat is checked b4 goin anywhere uphill w load ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 1:59pm
we are going to put new thermostat in, so we know where that is at ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:00pm
Omg what a pita.. I shelled out 1000 dollars last week on my truck ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:00pm
ouch .i have to get a set of tires, and wire the trailer and get brakes on
trailer and brake box in truck, thermostat... that is about it....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:01pm
Ill dpend another 2k on it this month.Spend....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:01pm
OW....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:01pm
Expect it if ur hauling....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:01pm
but it is cheaper than buying a new truck, if the rest of it is still
good....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:01pm
Yes mines paid for too.Is why I fic it.Fix....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:01pm
and that is what it will be like... i have to have a good expense cushion to
stay on top of all maintenance... .mine is paid for too .and my trailer is
paid for ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:02pm
Its by tods frace most times I keep goin o man. .. .Oh jeez gods grace! Dumb
cell phone ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:03pm
ah! .oh yes, i guess i need one of those too, a dumb smart phone... and a
laptop ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:03pm
Hey troopers gettin his feet done this week. Hes doing well but I want his
feet done b4 he works any harder ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:04pm
yea i am sure he is due ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:04pm
Dont want him lame .Hes doin really good ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:04pm
his feet did remarkably well over the winter... we hadn't trimmed him in a
few months ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:04pm
Still a rump tucker sometimes tho lol .Not for the faint of heart! ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:04pm
he looked happy... had an honest look on his face, like he trusted and was
trying -- oh he IS?? oh dear that would scare me too. he is so powerful.
well the consistency should hopefully get him over that, once he gets good
he should be real good... or at least damn sure hope so, that is the
plan!....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:05pm
Well he gets lunged first, then has rider on on lunge line .Then when hes
pooped out line comes off n he gets walked a while w a rider....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:06pm
everything is so new and weird to him, compared what he knows ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:06pm
To cool off .Well... hes spoiled. . .Baths n walked n turn out to eat ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:07pm
lots of personal attention ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:07pm
Hes out daily yes lots .But javier says hes going to be very handy for a big
horse ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:07pm
i know that, yes. ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:07pm
Id like to keep him in training ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:08pm
he is a lot more athletic than one would expect for his size ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:08pm
Til hes fairly "finished" ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:08pm
when a baby on his momma, it was nothing for him to hop right over a gate
....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:08pm
Seems an injustice to sell him below what his potential is ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:08pm
yea, i don't blame you on that... he is a lot of horse to be riding if
green .i agree.you need to get everything out of him, that you can get
too... he is a worthy horse, may as well get that .if financially
doable.once he stabilizes, gets steady and dependable mentally, gets
confidenct, he has loads of potential ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:11pm
Yes its an investment but my daughter is payin his board n im paying
trainer .So its not quite so OUCH on the bank acct lol ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:15pm
i hope great things for you. .And as we mentioned before, if this works,
we may do it again some time .i do know good horses, and occasionally have
access to good horses ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:16pm
Well im very happy w Javier .He startes marvs 4 yr old curly stud n at the
same time as trooper n hes doing well too ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:16pm
SO! I THINK (PLAN!) to be ready to haul in mid to late July....
i will keep you posted on that. I MAY be able to make a run for your
customers before that, if i get my repairs done sooner... so keep me posted
on that. .great!.i am sure i would like Javier! .do you get most of your
hauls from word of mouth among the curly people, and uship? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/2, 2:18pm
Well right now I got a donk in kalispel to cedar city Utah, 4 to 6 goats in
hamilton I need here by the 14th of june .And need something out of esparto
cali coming east .I have more requests thats the most pressing ones ....
Donna Grace 6/2, 2:50pm
how urgent is the donkey one .that is on the route i am planning next month
.... June 8
Carrie Freeland 6/8, 8:33am
Hi donna, just wanted to offer my advice... if u are going to start shipping
I would strongly suggest for your own protection that you dont offer
transports of livestock(opposed to cargo) with no advance payment. Been
there and tried that .. 9 x out of 10 u wont get paid! .Also
need to find out if youve decided to let us go forward with training and
marketing trooper, or if I should be making arrangements to get him to
colorado. .Hes just had his feet trimmed, is on a break of mostly turnput,
hes a bit off in one front so hes getting time off. ....
Carrie Freeland 6/8, 8:38am
However his board and training costs (care n supplements too) are 100%
covered. Dont want to pressure ou at all. But im prepared to follow thru
on my promise of training and care . Of course I dont want to waste
financial resources if his previous buyer comes thru it will be a loss for
us. Javier says hes got real potential as a reiner or possibly roper if he
can overcome his jumpy nature.. ....
Carrie Freeland 6/8, 8:41am
I just got some huge rolls of hay, so during his lil break he has all he can
eat buffet along with two ponies in the pasture for company. .He of course
has his stable too but im encouraging javi to keep him out as much as
possible for now .I think you would be pleased with the care and attention
hes getting, and he seems to be happy too lol. please
let me know if he has a buyer or if we will be spending our summer with
him. .... June 8 Donna Grace 6/8, 12:17pm
Yea, sorry, i am standing by my June 1 deadline, and i heard nothing,
and was advised by Joe's cousin that he may never contact me... so your
and my deal is in progress now.
I think I have that worded wrong, i have to go back and look. That was some
wording left over from my brokering on uship profile, so i better look.
THANKS. I wont be ready to roll for another month i think, but sure hope it
works out. I will send you any business i get asked about, that i don't
want, in case you can use it. especially out east, i may go to TN next year,
but not interested out east for now. ....
Donna Grace 6/8, 12:20pm
OK Carrie, it is worded: I do not require payment before the load it picked
up (that is how i did it brokering trucks OTR)... but in this case, it
means, no deposit... just have it when i pick up your animal... or freight -
doesn't that sound safe to you? How do you do it? .I had thought when i left
this in my write up, that, it means, i won't be picking up much of anything
too far off a route already planned... and if i got there and no money, i
could just say sorry, and continue on. Would that not work? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/8, 12:25pm
In a perfect asshole free world. . Lol sure.. but over time u will find
yourself inconvenienced and wasted time.. because nothing is ever exactly
"on the way" .. ....
Donna Grace 6/8, 12:26pm
yea? probably so, huh... .so you always get deposits beforehand, enough to
cover the gas? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/8, 12:26pm
Yes. 50% prior to pickup unless otherwise agreed on ....
Donna Grace 6/8, 12:26pm
(asshole free world LOL) .ah... ok. i will delete that comment then. with
trucking, there were payments guaranteed i guess, thru the channels we
worked thru ....
Donna Grace 6/8, 12:35pm
ok i reworded my pinned intro, and deleted that .where all do you get most
of your loads from? word of mouth? uship? other sites? .... June 20 Carrie Freeland 6/20, 7:52pm
Sorry been driving didnt mean to ignore ya lol .75% of my business now is
return customers from last year. I fill in empty slots using uship and get
an occasional load off facebook. .But I dont really advertise at all other
than what u see me post on here .... June 21
Donna Grace 6/21, 3:48pm
that is great to know.. I now have a DOT number. I still have to get
commercial insurance yet. working on getting trailer wired and a set of new
tires (will give me plenty of spares since my current tires are not bad).
then I will be ready to roll. Valene has a Chihuahua male, he is blue, he is
in Phoenix tho. .... June 22
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 7:44am
Check your wheel bearing, shackles bushings n springs . .OFTEN .I just put
out 3k this month in maintenance costs .Btw idk bobbi might have told u
already but baby had his surgery, wolf teeth out n vaccines last week. .Hes
back from vet n doin good .Minerals n trims r helping but legs still iffy
.Lol hes slick as a whistle..... June 22
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:11pm
if his fetlocks don't correct I hate to see her put money into him ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:12pm
I know.. but too late for that ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:12pm
that is not usable as a gelding, and one cannot know if it was a weakness
genetically, ALTHO my story is, his set (sickle hocks) might have made him
MORE risk ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:12pm
Vet says NOT genetic .Neglect ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:12pm
that makes the most sense to me, prob set hocks, and poor mineral, and
growth spurt when he needed trimming .poor guy (my same old same old story)
....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:13pm
Hes getting excellent care now ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:13pm
I know that ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:14pm
Hes very smart n loving ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:14pm
i made a note on that tip about frequent checking on the truck... is that
part of the suspension? .wheels....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:14pm
Yes .No 1 priority .U ve 2 axles? .New tires will be worthless in 1000 miles
....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:15pm
ok i wrote it down because i won't remember, don't know what some of those
are ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:15pm
Ben there .Wheel bearings. ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:15pm
truck 2 axles, trlr 2 axles ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:15pm
Re do them . ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:16pm
so if i keep it balanced, they would catch it tho? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:16pm
Bearing n seals grease .Spring bolts and their bushings ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:16pm
i told Erik i should redo bearings ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:17pm
N check the shackles n their brackets ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:17pm
i don't know when/if they've ever been done ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:17pm
They connect your leaf springs. Just check it ALL .Lol .N the u bolts on the
axles too ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:18pm
right ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:19pm
If any of it is worn u will ruin tires . Bust a spring or shackle otr n ur
screwed ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:19pm
i am glad my daughter is seeing a mechanic, and seems like actually a GOOD
mechanic .and he's anal retentive, very detail oriented, and perfectionist,
very cleanly... my truck is looking pretty good ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:20pm
Ill get pics for ya . Buy aan extra spring , spring bolts n bushings n extra
wheel bearings n seal n carry w u ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:20pm
ah ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:20pm
Parts r cheap. .Roadside repair.. $400 + ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:21pm
sounds like wise advice .you should get a DOT number, it is free ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:21pm
Trailer more likely to break than your truck trust me ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:22pm
oh really? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:22pm
Yes .They take a pounding .Ive run 3800+ miles since monday afternoon ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:23pm
i am lucky in that my wheels for trailer and truck are the same,
interchangeable, so i can easily carry enough spares .wow ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:24pm
Be sure u get e rated tr tires never let them put car or truck tires they
will pop after 500 miles ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:24pm
e rated ok .for both truck and trailer i assuem ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:25pm
Trailer tires important .Ur truck should have 10 ply .E rated yes ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:25pm
i do know that ... ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:25pm
Lol ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:25pm
it does right now, going to get new set, and use these for spares ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:26pm
U have diesel ryt ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:26pm
does e-rated = 10-ply or above, or is that 2 different things? .no gas ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:26pm
Oh gawd how u gonna make $ ?? ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:27pm
i have a good free mechanic, and if i just can avoid breaking down on road,
i should do good ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:27pm
Mileage gonna kill u w gas .U lucky w mechanic!! ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:28pm
i plan to use this for about 50k miles, it looks GOOD for that much, then
get a diesel again ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:28pm
yea it will be interesting to see what mileage i do get .my trailer is heavy
.so even with the higher diesel cost, it is still offset by that much better
mileage for you then, eh? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:30pm
I gey 17 to 22 mpg loaded ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:30pm
my truck is set up for pulling, it is heavy duty BUT it is not a big
engine... it is a 5.2L or so .really that is awesome .your trlr must be
lighter than mine .i was lucky to get 17 pulling in any of my diesels ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:30pm
Its ste .Lots of oil n fuel filter changes. ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:31pm
yes on that! ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:31pm
Carry fuel filter w u too ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:31pm
ok right ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:32pm
Dust storms n bad fuel . Baf .Uuf I gotta go.. take nap n load leaving today
....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:32pm
oh yea:) .heading this way? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:33pm
Ne .. ft collins .. I 80 then Lewiston , Nampa. . Utah az el paso n home
....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:34pm
ah you are going around me ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:34pm
Yeh loads dictated . ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:34pm
you taking that one mare on UShip? .i saw you talking to her ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:34pm
Yeh .Is booked ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:34pm
cool that will be a good paying one ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:34pm
No .Cheap .Uship never pays good ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:35pm
what did you bid .ah.. ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:35pm
What she could pay .Is a fill 4 me ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:35pm
so the best are like curly owners et, they pay what, $2 mi? ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:36pm
Lol im my frikkin dreams ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:36pm
oh ok well seems i see all these $1mi bids on uship .and i thot, i wish i
could get that ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:36pm
Yes n theyre getting like 60 to 75 .Fills ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:37pm
ah. ok. not cool ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:37pm
Good in a pinch ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:37pm
yea but i will never make it pinching i know .but have to start somewhere i
geuss .so do you set a main haul, the do fill ins around it? and the main
haul, that dictates your route, what do you usually make that pay/ ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:39pm
Yes. Up to 150 mile ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:39pm
well when you get back i will pic your brain some more, you need to grab a
nap ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:39pm
Yes plz. Been otr over 24 hrs 3 hrs sleep .Staging 4 trip ....
Donna Grace 6/22, 1:40pm
ttyl! ....
Carrie Freeland 6/22, 1:40pm
West .... June 30
Carrie Freeland 6/30, 7:44am
Hi there .. please.. dont post info on my current location or breakdowns on
Facebook . I can potentially be juggling up to 6 c7stomers at a time and
when people see things they panic thinking im broke down down with their
animals. . It also just doesnt look very good.. .... June 30
Donna Grace 6/30, 12:27pm
oh I am SO sorry... I sure didn't blame you of course, but wasn't thinking
of it that way! .... July 1
Carrie Freeland 7/1, 6:27am
Is ok.. stuff does happen just most ppl have no idea its unavoidable and
they get the wrong idea I guess. .... July 1
Donna Grace 7/1, 1:47pm
OF course I should have thot of that, don't worry tho wont happen again. yea
people are kind of nutty. hey I got a question for you. what do you do for
insurance I cant find any.... July 2
Donna Grace 7/2, 4:05pm
Do you want to breed your Chi? Do you want me to tell Val to knock down that
price? .She is broke and i just loaned her some money, so she is at my mercy
Bwahahaha... ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 6:38pm
Well she said shed like to pick a pup .. is fine w me .though I havent
contacted her yet ill be going thru there in the next couple days. ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 6:39pm
she said she'd do your choice, puppy, or little stud fee....
if you need certain sex or color, she doesn't have to have pick if it
interferes with what you need. trust me. .is lil ChiChi in season? .i will
take stud fee out of what she owes me, so you don't have to pay anything,
that is least i can do for your help and advice in helping me out! ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 6:40pm
Shes ready anytime ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 6:41pm
so that way, you can give her a puppy if you want to, or nothing and i will
take it from her LOL ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 6:48pm
she is just east of Phoenix, her addy is 25783 Miami St, Buckeye AZ 85326,
406-670-3837 cell. ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:00pm
you can stay with her, spare bedroom, no bed, don't suppose you have
inflatable mattress? but you are welcome. .or couch ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:02pm
Thanks ill give her a ring when I know what day im leaving chino. .Trying to
get some welding done on my trailer .A removable divider ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:03pm
cool. oh wow. .what are you hauling? ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:03pm
Oh jeez owch lol ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:04pm
lol ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:04pm
A falabella stud n a curly mare ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:04pm
oh WOW ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:04pm
Lmao ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:04pm
any luck w/ Fairchild plans? .i have never seen a fallabella ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:04pm
Need them picked up .if u have anythin going east coast in next 4 weeks let
me know ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:05pm
my truck is getting new tires, and trailer is being wired... i hope you find
someone quicker than me, but as soon as i get roadworthy i will LET YOU
KNOW! .ok ! .want me to send you little things, like pets for add-ons? ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:06pm
No I try to stay away from that ive got my own pets on this one. Lol ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:07pm
Oh part of THIS trip eh, got it ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:07pm
My poodle is starving himself bcos the chihuahua is in heat its driving me
crazy ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:07pm
will do .oh i thot you would not bring him you are crazier than i am ....
Carrie Freeland 7/2, 7:08pm
Had to bring him .Well hopefully I get out of here soon need to get back
.Supposed to be going to breyerfest ....
Donna Grace 7/2, 7:12pm
oh cool .lots of plans going on with that i hear! ....
(busy moving
and hauling from Montana --> Arizona August & September,
I made a few hasty check-ins by phone texts, not answered by Carrie I
don't remember/think... but no news about Trooper good bad or indifferent.)
September 10
Donna Grace 9/10, 9:36pm
How is Trooper doing? Will he be ready to sell this fall do you think? .... September 22
Carrie Freeland 9/22, 3:42pm
Ill give u a ring or bobbi will, im on the road. ....
Donna Grace 9/22, 4:20pm
no rush thanks .OH I have an updated number -- 406-855-2193 (delete the
former one) thx ....
Carrie Freeland 9/22, 4:21pm
....
received insane
flippo phone call from carrie's daughter, nicol "bobbi" vanderheyden...
upset, and wanting to be taken off the agreement and wanting no money.
Told me to go ahead and sell Trooper now, but she wanted none of the
profits. when asked why, what is going on, bobbi hung up and blocked me on
facebook i saw later.
October 9
Donna Grace 10/9, 7:46pm
I don't know what is going on out there, but Nicole wants Trooper sold
immediately, so he is posted. I need videos of him ASAP, she told me she
would get them, then blocked me, I am sorry you guys are having some kind of
drama, but PLEASE do not include me or my horse in it, I beg you. I just
want to get this handled in the best way possible for you and my horse and
me. If you can get some video to me, I might be able to get him sold ASAP,
plus you might get a haul out of it. ....
Donna Grace 10/9, 7:47pm
That is everything I can do from here. I don't know what happened, and am
sorry things did not work out. .... October 10
Donna Grace 10/10, 11:08am
OK sorry, Nicole had me pretty upset last night. Anyway, feel calmer this
morning, and hope everything works out ok. Let me know what you need from
me, and how we can get this taken care of leaving a smile on both our faces.
Thanks, Carrie. .... October 15
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 9:58am
My daughter and I have no drama on our end whatsoever. Your horses board
needs paid asap. I also need your current address. I asked for it 3 times
yesterday and still have not received it. ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 10:27am
Oh, I am having no drama either. I am sticking to the agreement we had,
which was, I did not pay any board or training. Nothing has changed. I see
no reason for you to need my address, unless you are going to deliver him
back home and excuse yourself from our agreement. If you want to change the
agreement we are in, then we need to discuss that. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:34pm
You mis represented the horse to me from the very beginning. Theres no
signed agreement. I agreed to train him .hes trained. At no cost to you. If
you claim him as your horse you need to pay his care. Ive contacted several
buyers. If you do not start covering his costs or reimburse me a minimum of
2000 hes not going anywhere. I do need your address. Have no current address
for his owner who is purported to be you. ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:35pm
Carrie how did I misrepresent him?....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:36pm
What you are doing is abandonment.You lied donna....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:36pm
No, I was just informed a few days ago, carrie that you wanted to change the
agreement. I did not lie about a thing. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:36pm
Saod he was broke. Was not. Said he was sound he was not. Hes got a million
old scars .I told you in june he was having soundness issues donna ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:37pm
No you did not. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:37pm
I offered on Saturday to split your insane price of 3500 dollars you never
answered. If you dont help out here hes going to end up sold for expenses
.And I know im not the first person youve farmed out an unsound horse to. It
stops NOW .Im standing hete now spend my afternoon watching him being
worked. Theres a limit to my generosity donna. .Ive covered all care and
training for 5 months. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:39pm
....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:39pm
I told you I had to have enough time to discuss a change of plans with
Sterrin. She is working 12 hour shifts, and I hope to talk to her today. I
don't know what you are talking about, but he is not abandoned, and we will
get something figured out. I have received no generosity from you carrie,
and I have never farmed out an unsound riding horse to anyone yet. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:39pm
Well you did this time. .We have video showing what he did when he came ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:40pm
if you get me videos I can sell him for $3500 if he is sound... if he is
unsound, I need to see it in a video or have it documented by a vet who has
seen hiim ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:40pm
Sure go ahead send a vet .Hes a 1200$ hack donna .Im sorry but thats the
reality of the situation ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:41pm
like I offered, we can meet halfway, each of us put in half to meet and I
can take him home ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:41pm
Im not losing 2k for you and im not hauling him.for free again ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:43pm
i am not releasing ownership of this horse for you to sell as meat, when i
have no proof or belief that he is anything other that what he was when he
left - a very nice, sound horse... i am happy to market him for what i know
him to be, but if you are claiming he is unsound i am unable to market him.
....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:44pm
i was suggesting as a ride along, that way we could retrieve him, and get
him off your board ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:44pm
Dont care .Im.not losing any more money. ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:44pm
i know you cannot haul him dedicated at a loss. .I am not going to lose all
my money in him either ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:45pm
If you wont give me an address ill send to the pi box listed on his coggins
....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:45pm
send what carrie ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:45pm
I have to send a notice donna if you wont help with his care or reimburse me
thru sales monies im left no other option ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:46pm
well i have to have the opportunity to market him - which you are
effectively blocking, aren't you? ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:46pm
Send a vet for a soundness eval if you want but his foot was messed up when
I got him u had to know it was there ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:47pm
he was always 100% sound on it, and worked hard on it. .You are the one that
is claiming a change has occurred. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:47pm
Bullshit this horse was never under saddle donna ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:47pm
well he was, for hours on end carrie .i do not lie, either for profit or any
other reason, and am not starting now ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:48pm
I highly doubt that you admitted to bobbi he knew nothing and to me as well
....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:49pm
being totally green for his age is not the same thing as being ridden
hard... he was ridden all over the ranch all day long, over rocks, gullies,
coulees, mountains, etc... he never limped a day in his life, and was tested
probably harder than anything you have done in a little arena. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:49pm
Im telling you right now the least im willing to do is split 3500 for you.
Meanwhile, his feet need trimmed, and his board need paid. Total of which to
date is ovee 1300 dollars in board alone. .Donna u are absolutely full of
it. Hes been ridden now 20 minutes and hes already short strided .Did you
think id give him.back with no compensation at all? Are u crazy??? ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:52pm
What has happened to him to make him short strided? This never happened
here... so what do you think I am going to think about what you are
claiming? ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 12:53pm
Donna he had the scar when I picked him up from you! ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 12:53pm
Yes, and zero lameness Carrie, hard ridden... sorry, but that is the truth.
If something has happened there, maybe you didn't know about it? I don't
know?? .You have me at a complete disadvantage, and i am trying my best to
think of a solution that is fair... but giving you money when we agreed I
would have no monetary contribution to this deal, is out of the question...
at least for now, we can make another deal, and start over... ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 1:01pm
NOTHING HAPPENED HERE HES STABLED .Are you saying had no okd injuries when I
got him ? Tjats a baldface lie .Hes so broke I just rode him wtc is that
worth nothing to you? Im amazed u think 5 months of care n training is free
n u want to rob me of a comission because u have an inflated idea of his
worth! ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 1:35pm
He never showed it because he was a fat pasture pet! You have admitted the
horse was not broke . I told you in june he was having issues. You can deny
it all you want. I have uploaded some videos and shared the links with a few
buyers. If you and your daughter cannot get it together enough to feed and
cover his care (which youd have to do if he was in your possession anyway)
then I have no choice but to send a letter of intent to the only address I
have which is a po box in Montana. It is highway robbery to ask 3500 for
trooper. If you think you will sell him pocket the sale and send a trailer
without compensating us you are in for one heck of a shock. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 1:39pm
If I have to haul him it wont be free ANYWHERE. Already did that. This might
have worked on other folks but im not falling for it. We are actively
marketing him for what we have invested or best offer. If you want him to
keep being ridden I am willing to do that. But I will not board and vet him
for free any longer. If you want that kind of money you need to be prepared
to put something forward besides "im broke" ....
Carrie Freeland 10/15, 1:58pm
IF you will state what you are prepared to give us back if you can sell him
yourself I will consider it. I have video links if you want them but please
know he will not leave without some of these expenses being reimbursed out
of sale price AS WE AGREED .... October 15
Donna Grace 10/15, 7:42pm
We are both going to lose horribly on this. I feel, through no fault of ours
or anyone's. If you can control your nasty behavior long enough to stop
accusing, stop name calling, and stop blaming, maybe you and Sterrin can
reach an acceptable agreement. Sterrin is very fair, and very rational, and
very professional. Why don't you give that a try, and see if you 2 can come
to some solution that will work. I know we all are going to lose our hats
over this deal. For that, I am truly much more sorry than you can every have
a clue about. ....
Donna Grace 10/15, 7:50pm
I was thinking, maybe I should just send him to Joe Bruce, who is struggling
with a broken neck, maybe Trooper would give him a new lease on life... if
we are going to lose like hell, at least do something good out of the deal
....
Wednesday Carrie Freeland 10/22, 7:00am
You want to send a jumpy horse to a guy with a broken neck? Are you crazy?
Donna someone needs to cover his expenses. You told me this was your horse.
I did what I said I would took care of him and trained him. Im not losing
money on your horse..I never made any arrangements with a 2nd party. Never
once heard from her in 5 months. That is what you call professional? ....
Carrie Freeland 10/22, 7:04am
Shes accused me of making him unsound. Not the case. How would you ever have
known that he wouldnt stay sound under daily work he was never trained? In
the meantime the barn owner is aware of the situation. Its been about 2
weeks and if you claim responsibility for him he has needs . Like food rent
and farrier! I rode him every day for the last week because I cant affors
trainer if you all are not wanting to feed him. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/22, 7:05am
Hes a range scarred gelding now 9 years old. The price you want is
unrealistic. His bills are adding up. .Whoever claims responsibility for him
needs to step up and cover his board. No matter how much training he gets he
is NEVER going to be worth 3500! ....
Carrie Freeland 10/22, 7:12am
Im not being nasty. I was lied to about the ownership of the horse. Hes
covered in old scars, and under constant work does not stay 100%. I can only
work with what u gave me. I have other horses here in training one only two
weeks in we've already gotten a 5500 dollar offer for him. I do my job. You
need to do yours as his owner. Ill not be dealing with your daughter. Ive
offered several times to continue riding him if his care is covered. If not
hes going to be sold and ill have to go file for an order to do so. Which
doesnt take long. I have no legal mailing address for you I strongly suggest
you provide one....
Thursday Donna Grace 10/23, 3:56pm
You may communicate with me regarding the horse by email only. Facebook is
not an appropriate medium for solving problems. When you decide you want to
solve his, please email me. Thank you. .... Today
Carrie Freeland 6:13am
Donna you need to.make a decision. The laws here make it a very simple
matter for me to handle this myself but I really dont want to do that. If
you refuse to provide a legal mailing address ill have no other choice. if
you claim him you need to help care for him. Hes due for boosters and a
trim. Ive been riding him almost every day. I cannot and will not play games
with you. The horse is broke he rides wtc, backs, leg yields and rides on
both bosal and bridle. Ive done my job I do expect to be compensated for it.
If I have to sell him to do that, so be it. Please provide an address for
your residence. I do not have your email and its going on 3 weeks since
we've asked you to provide basic needs for your horse. 2 weeks in illinois
is all I need and that has passed. ....
Carrie Freeland 6:15am
I can assure you that the court will not consider emailing you ....
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Add PhotosToday Donna Grace 10:21am
My decision has not changed since we made an agreement in May 2014. Nothing
has changed, other than, the agreement we made is not working for you any
more. If I have to come pick Trooper up, then, let me know. I will not
authorize you to sell him without .me. You do not have permission to sell
Crow Fair Hancock. EMail only from now on. So that I have a record of your
changing stories.Monday Carrie Freeland 10/27, 11:10pm
His expenses total well over 2000 $ . I have no physical address for you.
You refuse now for 3 weeks to feed him yourself. I suggest you take me to
court as your daughter said she wanted to. Please do. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/27, 11:13pm
You can afford to pick him up from Arizona but not feed him ? Please. The
deal was I sold him at a profit to pay his expenses back . That was the only
agreement I ever made . Train and sell the horse. Well the horse is trained.
N he isnt leaving until im paid in one form or another for it. And a train
wrecked colt needing surgery or a bullet DOESN'T COUNT ....
Carrie Freeland 10/27, 11:19pm
Hes been shipped properly housed , cared for and trained all at no cost to
you. Since may .I did my part ....
Tuesday Carrie Freeland 10/28, 10:00pm
If yoy wanted my address you only needed to ask not bother my friends.
Interesting considering ive been asking for yours for three weeks. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/28, 10:13pm
Just FYI. its been 3 weeks since you were notified your animal needs fed .
Ive been advised by the DA office that i DO NOT have to release the horse
unless his expenses are paid Training 280 x 3 months Board 240/month may to
present Vet and farrier Shipping billings mt to chicago @$1.50/ loaded mile.
Id say thats a pretty significant investment on our end. ....
Carrie Freeland 10/28, 10:15pm
I can document every dollar in a court of law as well as photographs of the
severely neglected colt you sent with him. .Either send board to take care
of his needs or he is going to be sold . I will not put any morw money into
your horses for you ....
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